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	<title>Comments on: Tool and the Dionysian Future of Music: A Pop Analysis</title>
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		<title>By: Lydie Krivosik</title>
		<link>https://nomosjournal.org/2013/03/tool-and-the-dionysian-future-of-music/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>Lydie Krivosik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2015 15:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you play any musical instruments? As a professional classical violinist I admire your musical sensitivity. I mean, in your article you show a concrete knowledge of musicology however your message goes beyond passive observation.
Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you play any musical instruments? As a professional classical violinist I admire your musical sensitivity. I mean, in your article you show a concrete knowledge of musicology however your message goes beyond passive observation.<br />
Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Mickey</title>
		<link>https://nomosjournal.org/2013/03/tool-and-the-dionysian-future-of-music/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 21:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nomosjournal.org/2013/03/tool-and-the-dionysian-future-of-music/#comment-95&quot;&gt;Zabb&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for your comment.  I agree with your initial point.  It would be a mistake to argue that Tool or any popular musicians &quot;revolt&quot; against society (which is why I didn&#039;t make that claim).  Labeling Tool as &quot;pop&quot; indicates that they are very much a part of &quot;the common musical discourse of society.&quot;  However, you must admit that a song about a hooker with a penis is not exactly mainstream either.  In any case, the point of the &quot;I&#039;m the Man&quot; line seems to be that we are all &quot;the Man,&quot; hence the lyrics suggesting that if you want to point your finger at someone for being &quot;the Man,&quot; then your own posterior orifice is the best place to point that finger.  We are all &quot;the Man,&quot; participants in the dominant paradigm, selling our souls to make a living.  The question is not whether or not someone is revolting against the system, because that question is moot: the system feeds on revolt and turns the counterculture into a commodity.  We are all &quot;the Man,&quot; yet there are different ways of handling that: one way is to be destructive, hateful, point fingers, blame others...; the other way is to be creative, compassionate, communicating and communing instead of dividing and fragmenting.  My point is this article is that Tool&#039;s music is not about revolt as much as it is about healing, growth, and integration facilitated through intensified states of consciousness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://nomosjournal.org/2013/03/tool-and-the-dionysian-future-of-music/#comment-95">Zabb</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment.  I agree with your initial point.  It would be a mistake to argue that Tool or any popular musicians &#8220;revolt&#8221; against society (which is why I didn&#8217;t make that claim).  Labeling Tool as &#8220;pop&#8221; indicates that they are very much a part of &#8220;the common musical discourse of society.&#8221;  However, you must admit that a song about a hooker with a penis is not exactly mainstream either.  In any case, the point of the &#8220;I&#8217;m the Man&#8221; line seems to be that we are all &#8220;the Man,&#8221; hence the lyrics suggesting that if you want to point your finger at someone for being &#8220;the Man,&#8221; then your own posterior orifice is the best place to point that finger.  We are all &#8220;the Man,&#8221; participants in the dominant paradigm, selling our souls to make a living.  The question is not whether or not someone is revolting against the system, because that question is moot: the system feeds on revolt and turns the counterculture into a commodity.  We are all &#8220;the Man,&#8221; yet there are different ways of handling that: one way is to be destructive, hateful, point fingers, blame others&#8230;; the other way is to be creative, compassionate, communicating and communing instead of dividing and fragmenting.  My point is this article is that Tool&#8217;s music is not about revolt as much as it is about healing, growth, and integration facilitated through intensified states of consciousness.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Mickey</title>
		<link>https://nomosjournal.org/2013/03/tool-and-the-dionysian-future-of-music/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2014 00:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nomosjournal.org/2013/03/tool-and-the-dionysian-future-of-music/#comment-94&quot;&gt;Nick&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the comments, Nick.  Those are all good additions regarding Maynard&#039;s difference from other members of Tool, the diverse (anti)religious sentiments expressed in Maynard&#039;s lyrics, and his work with other bands (A Perfect Circle; Puscifer).  I would also add the eco-spiritual significance of his work as a vintner.  

Within the limits of this short article, my main focus was the music Tool and not Maynard himself.  In any case, I&#039;m hoping to give a more detailed analysis in the future, including an interpretation of each member&#039;s unique contributions as well as an interpretation of their musical expression as a unified thing, a band, a tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://nomosjournal.org/2013/03/tool-and-the-dionysian-future-of-music/#comment-94">Nick</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments, Nick.  Those are all good additions regarding Maynard&#8217;s difference from other members of Tool, the diverse (anti)religious sentiments expressed in Maynard&#8217;s lyrics, and his work with other bands (A Perfect Circle; Puscifer).  I would also add the eco-spiritual significance of his work as a vintner.  </p>
<p>Within the limits of this short article, my main focus was the music Tool and not Maynard himself.  In any case, I&#8217;m hoping to give a more detailed analysis in the future, including an interpretation of each member&#8217;s unique contributions as well as an interpretation of their musical expression as a unified thing, a band, a tool.</p>
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		<title>By: Zabb</title>
		<link>https://nomosjournal.org/2013/03/tool-and-the-dionysian-future-of-music/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Zabb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 21:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saying any pop musicians revolt against the common musical discourse of society is mistaken. The only reason the powers within a society allow bands like Tool to become successful is because these powers know they can make a lot of money off of it. Thus these popular bands become just another way for authorities to support there own discourse. Tool even addresses this in their song &quot;Hooker With a Penis&quot; when Maynard screams, &quot;I&#039;m the Man,&quot; during the chorus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying any pop musicians revolt against the common musical discourse of society is mistaken. The only reason the powers within a society allow bands like Tool to become successful is because these powers know they can make a lot of money off of it. Thus these popular bands become just another way for authorities to support there own discourse. Tool even addresses this in their song &#8220;Hooker With a Penis&#8221; when Maynard screams, &#8220;I&#8217;m the Man,&#8221; during the chorus.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>https://nomosjournal.org/2013/03/tool-and-the-dionysian-future-of-music/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Feb 2014 05:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well somehow my comment got cut off.

Well I&#039;m not going to retype the rest - but suffice to say I thought leaving out a song like 10,000 when discussing Maynard and religiosity left out important information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well somehow my comment got cut off.</p>
<p>Well I&#8217;m not going to retype the rest &#8211; but suffice to say I thought leaving out a song like 10,000 when discussing Maynard and religiosity left out important information.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Feb 2014 05:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just came upon this article and had some thoughts is like to share.

Well this is was interesting.  Though, I think he makes a few errors/leaves a few things out tht I think would make this a better analysis.

First, he acknowledges the band is made up of four individual members, but tries to tie the &#039;religiosity&#039; of Maynard&#039;s lyrics with Carey&#039;s drumming.  Sorry, but those two guys seem to come from two very different places (in regards to beliefs) - and I think that muddles up that part of the conversation.  He also ignores Adam&#039;s major role in the aesthetics of Tool - and references their live performance visuals but says nothin about their many incredibly unique (and amazingly creative and full of all sorts of imagery themselves) music videos.  

Second, Maynard&#039;s stage positioning, while unique in what he&#039;s calling pop music, isn&#039;t unique to Tool - he does the same thing when he performs as Puscifer or A Perfect Cirlce.  And sometimes he&#039;s in costume or behind a curtain - the guy doesn&#039;t like to be on stage and is always very uncomfortable looking.  So that&#039;s another part that is lacking.

Lastly, there is a lot more that could be discussed in terms of &#039;religiosity&#039; in regards to Maynard&#039;s lyrics - but he completely ignores the other bands he&#039;s in and writes for.  And so in addition to skewing Maynard&#039;s position by mixing it up with Carey&#039;s he also ignores a big source of material that I think would help clarify things.  So often his use of religious language is spiteful (Judith) or mocking (

But still very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just came upon this article and had some thoughts is like to share.</p>
<p>Well this is was interesting.  Though, I think he makes a few errors/leaves a few things out tht I think would make this a better analysis.</p>
<p>First, he acknowledges the band is made up of four individual members, but tries to tie the &#8216;religiosity&#8217; of Maynard&#8217;s lyrics with Carey&#8217;s drumming.  Sorry, but those two guys seem to come from two very different places (in regards to beliefs) &#8211; and I think that muddles up that part of the conversation.  He also ignores Adam&#8217;s major role in the aesthetics of Tool &#8211; and references their live performance visuals but says nothin about their many incredibly unique (and amazingly creative and full of all sorts of imagery themselves) music videos.  </p>
<p>Second, Maynard&#8217;s stage positioning, while unique in what he&#8217;s calling pop music, isn&#8217;t unique to Tool &#8211; he does the same thing when he performs as Puscifer or A Perfect Cirlce.  And sometimes he&#8217;s in costume or behind a curtain &#8211; the guy doesn&#8217;t like to be on stage and is always very uncomfortable looking.  So that&#8217;s another part that is lacking.</p>
<p>Lastly, there is a lot more that could be discussed in terms of &#8216;religiosity&#8217; in regards to Maynard&#8217;s lyrics &#8211; but he completely ignores the other bands he&#8217;s in and writes for.  And so in addition to skewing Maynard&#8217;s position by mixing it up with Carey&#8217;s he also ignores a big source of material that I think would help clarify things.  So often his use of religious language is spiteful (Judith) or mocking (</p>
<p>But still very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Rinella</title>
		<link>https://nomosjournal.org/2013/03/tool-and-the-dionysian-future-of-music/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Rinella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 19:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for mentioning my book, &lt;em&gt;Pharmakon&lt;/em&gt;, in your discussion of Nietzsche.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for mentioning my book, <em>Pharmakon</em>, in your discussion of Nietzsche.</p>
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